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patrick
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 10, 2008 10:49 am

Ok na yun bro, maaliw ka kung makita mo ang ginagawa ni Je-ar sa vision nya...hayup yun haha Je-ar uwi ka na haha ayawan na.
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 10, 2008 1:47 pm

sir patrick, how about a k2 frame pwede ba yun i-setup for street trials?
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 10, 2008 2:55 pm

nabitin kami kagabi sapag buo. sabit ang crank kya palit p ng bb. excited pa naman ako magamit. heheh. uwi ako maaga para ma subukan. heheh..
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 10, 2008 3:40 pm

@u2y911

Any frame is potentially ridable, question is how comfortable it is, ano ba ang size?

@kam0t3

Ano size ng BB kailangan mo? Score ka nalang ng pinakamalapad. Sa Ross may 128mm nakabili si Benjo
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u2y911 wrote:
sir patrick, how about a k2 frame pwede ba yun i-setup for street trials?


pare before purchasing a frame, check mo muna yung geometry kung my potential siya for trials...yung frame ko gt chucker..pwedeng pandurog, pero bagal ng progression. promise pare ang hirap...ikaw din mag suffer kung hindi maganda ang geometry ng frame. try checking, trials site or look for trials frame geometry for a guidance...
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u2y911 wrote:
sir patrick, how about a k2 frame pwede ba yun i-setup for street trials?

bro, meron akong k2... sa tingin ko hindi cya comfortable kasi 17 or 18 ata yung size nun. tapos mababa din ang bb height nya pag nag rigid ka. pero it's up to you bro.
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 11, 2008 3:40 pm

salamat sa reply mga bro..

anyway, hope to build a new rig this year for trials only...

any suggestion kng saan maganda bumili ng frame at budget friendly... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 13, 2008 9:04 am

Abang abang ka lang ng trials specific bro, malapit lapit na yan. naughty
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 13, 2008 9:34 am

magkakaron na dito ng trials spec frame? ayus... pat, balitaan mu naman ako pag meron na Very Happy
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patrick wrote:
Abang abang ka lang ng trials specific bro, malapit lapit na yan. naughty

Hehehe Pat yung Gu ng Stock sakin ha...tapos control na Mod para dun sa anak anakan ko..hehehe habang bata turuan na...
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 13, 2008 9:14 pm

speaking of xc to trial bike... meron ditong khs alite1000 na size 13. pwede ba cya for trials? baka kasi patusin ko muna habang nag aantay ng trials specific frame Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 14, 2008 2:06 am

ito na ang pinalit ko sa KHS. Very Happy 11.5 ang BB height. ok na kaya ito?
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Mas masarap ang pakiramdam ko sa pag angat ng harap & rear wheel hop.

ok lang kaya yung deg ng stem? 80mm sya, yung deg hindi ko lang sure. parang 10 or 12. hehehehe... pwede na pang laspagan. nagasgasan ko na din siya. hahahaha...
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Jay18 wrote:
ito na ang pinalit ko sa KHS. Very Happy 11.5 ang BB height. ok na kaya ito?
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Mas masarap ang pakiramdam ko sa pag angat ng harap & rear wheel hop.

ok lang kaya yung deg ng stem? 80mm sya, yung deg hindi ko lang sure. parang 10 or 12. hehehehe... pwede na pang laspagan. nagasgasan ko na din siya. hahahaha...

Panalo sir!
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 14, 2008 7:45 am

Jay tingin ko yung bar sweep mo problema pa. Sama ka sa sunday para ma-check natin ang pagka setup ng mga parts mo.

Hingi ka din kay Benjo ng tips sa brake setup dahil sya ang may pinaka magandang v-brake setup dito sa atin.
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raimun wrote:
speaking of xc to trial bike... meron ditong khs alite1000 na size 13. pwede ba cya for trials? baka kasi patusin ko muna habang nag aantay ng trials specific frame Very Happy

Tol mababa ang BB ng khs alite1000 ata not sure pero pag aralan mo muna. Ako nagstart ako sa 16" XC bike na medyo mataas ang BB.
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 14, 2008 7:55 am

may pasok ako ng week ends. gusto ko nga sumama para makakuha ng tips. sa april pa ko magkakaroon ng off ng week ends. this month week days ang off ko.
ganun kasi dito sa trabaho ko, 4days on & 4days off kaya nag momove yung araw ng pasok & araw ng off..

btw, what is bar sweep? newbie.. Very Happy hehehe...
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 14, 2008 9:50 am

Yung angle ng bars pre, since trials tayo at gamit natin ay DH bars (dahil walang mabiling trials bars dito) dapat pihitin sya pa forward. Parang ganito:

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Yung grips mo dapat ay perpendicular sa gulong ibig sabihin hindi sya naka sweep paatras sa grips yan ang the best position para hindi mapagod ang arms mo at para sa geometry.

Pare sa iba, madami pang mod frames dito sa metro manila, bilhin nyo na. Pareho ng bike nina Joelou.
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 14, 2008 9:59 am

Pat, curious question, i've read that DJ's get a slightly smaller frame recommended for their height for easier "playability".

does it apply to trials? baka kasi magbuo ako (finally) ng UA/trials bike, he he he

thanks
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patrick wrote:
Yung angle ng bars pre, since trials tayo at gamit natin ay DH bars (dahil walang mabiling trials bars dito) dapat pihitin sya pa forward. Parang ganito:

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Yung grips mo dapat ay perpendicular sa gulong ibig sabihin hindi sya naka sweep paatras sa grips yan ang the best position para hindi mapagod ang arms mo at para sa geometry.

Pare sa iba, madami pang mod frames dito sa metro manila, bilhin nyo na. Pareho ng bike nina Joelou.

ganyan din position ng bar ko. naka forward siya, check ko bukas pag uwi kung perpendicular yung grip sa gulong.

nakachamba ako knina, pedal up to rear wheel hop to pedal kick sa gater. Very Happy hehehehe...
madalas kasi endo to rear wheel hop. hirap lang pitikin ng hub ko, 16 lang kasi engagement. Sad
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anthrax76 wrote:
Pat, curious question, i've read that DJ's get a slightly smaller frame recommended for their height for easier "playability".

does it apply to trials? baka kasi magbuo ako (finally) ng UA/trials bike, he he he

thanks

sir, yung si kam0t3 naka Dj frame(ToraBora). ginagamit din namen pang practice ng trials. dun ako natuto ng mga basic moves. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Mar 15, 2008 10:40 am

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@pat: is this wat bar sweep is? tried it just this morning, mas relaks mag balance (tracstand) subalit mas mahirap iangat ang harapan. saka naging uncomfortable ang breaking ko. any recommendation on breaking setup? nga pla wat are you putting on your rims to help your braking?

@jay: try natin sa bike mo mya. tignan natin kung ganun din ang behavior.
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Mar 15, 2008 12:57 pm

Mahirap ba angatin ang harapan sa bunnyhop? If so ay natumpak mo hehe Tama ang sweep mo....

Gamit namin ngayon sa preno ay Tar. Per Kilo ito sa hardware huwag ka bibili tulad ni Meck na liquid hehe. Yung bloke dapat na aspalto, konti lang mga half kilo bilhin mo kasi nakakahiya bumili ng 1/4 kilo haha. Iguhit guhit mo lang , use sparingly baka kumapit ang pads mo sa rims...importante din na palitan mo ang brakepads mo ng ordinary MOB.

Sama ka ba tomorrow? Para matanong mo ang itatanong mo at macheck namin ang setup mo pre.
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Mar 15, 2008 3:37 pm

anu sasabihin ko sa hardwer? "pabili nga ng tar"? heheehe..

d pa kami sure. may pasok pa c jay. medyo malayong padyakan, kya alangan ako mag isa.
titignan pa ni jay18 kung pwedeng umiskapo sa opis. dipende pa to sa kasama nya. hehe..

san nga pla tom?
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Quote :
Pabili ng aspalto.

Sa baywalk pre 7a.m. kung sinoman ma late kung tapos na maglaro sa baywalk ay malamang sa spots na. Make sure nakuha nyo yung mobile nos sa directory.
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PostSubject: Re: XC bike turn into Trial bike   XC bike turn into Trial bike - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Mar 15, 2008 9:18 pm

haay natumpak ko nga pat hindi nako maka bunnyhop sa haba ng stem at barsweep ko ngayon...

mamimiss ko ang bunnyhop...

di bale pipilitin ko bukas makuha yung "snap" nitong geometry neto wehehe...


mga bro ang swerte ninyo ngayon may natatanungan na sa setup para mabilis matuto..

kami dati try try lng, ayun naka ilang stem na ba tayo pat? hehehe

sama kayo bukas bro para share share ng alam para matuto tayo lahat...
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